that this id s noa bad college town to rire in. harrisonburg, virginia, home of james madison university which beat virginia tech this weekend not that we're taking notice of that or i am. thanks for joining us, amanda. i wanted to ask you, in trms ofs these college towns, you picked the best college towns to retire in. how did you arrive at othis? there are lots of llege towns. >> sure. these coege towns have the traditional traits that retirees yook for, low taxes, affordable housing, good health care. on top of that each local college or university has a specific program that allows retirees to go back to school, to take courses in everything from the arts, language, literature, history. so seniors love these. they are using the courses to fill in the gaps from their education, from their undergraduate years. >> more than being on the golf course. >> exactly. you can't golf every y. >> as candy put it lots of keggers. let's get to the top five. starting at number five, let's put that on screen, bellingham, washington, 80,000, home of western washington university. why there? >> well, this